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   <title>馬拉松  代跑問題 : 在台灣，很多事情就變得很奇怪代跑者的論述是，我已經花錢買了這...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-09 at 9:52pm<br /><br />在台灣，很多事情就變得很奇怪<br />代跑者的論述是，我已經花錢買了這個跑步的權益<br />是因為我沒有時間去跑，讓人家跑又如何呢？<br />所以君不見，直接在網站上轉讓的文字比比皆是<br />更甚者，連代跑也都不用了<br />直接陪跑就好了啊<br />我也不知道這股風氣會如何延燒<br />我只知道，任何東西來到台灣就會變得很奇怪<br />從另外一個角度來看<br />這也是一種台灣經驗吧]]>
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   <title>馬拉松  代跑問題 : 我很感佩成為苦主的Luke兄&amp;#27809;有把自身的遭遇新...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=551" rel="nofollow">malonlon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-09 at 9:20pm<br /><br /><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">我很感佩成為苦主的</span><span lang="EN-US">Luke</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">兄&#27809;有把自身的遭遇新開成一個主題</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">而是搜尋舊文來接替討論</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這樣的作為</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">在此</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">我想表達的是賽會簡章</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">對於選手申訴或爭議這一節的不足性</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">我們在簡章最常見的</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">就是大會要求有爭議表&#36921;的選手當場繳交保証金</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">填具一個書類</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">交大會來處理</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">按</span><span lang="EN-US">luke</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">兄所陳述</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">對於代跑的疑慮</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">往往在當下的現場</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">時間上不容易舉証</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">通常在事後透過照片的搜索</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">才能確定苦主的推疑</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">但到這時已經事過境遷</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">光按簡章的規定</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">申訴只受理現場</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">不受理賽後</span><span lang="EN-US">,(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">至少簡章沒寫</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">這是合理的嗎</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">如果賽後可以受理檢舉</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">申訴</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; 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 mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">管道是</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">大會正式</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">或非正試</span><span lang="EN-US">?)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">受理單位是</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">最後受理的期限是</span><span lang="EN-US">?(</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">過了最後的受理期限</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">成次公告確定後</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">再發現違規</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">是否就免責免追訴呢</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">可以申訴的範圍是</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">比方說</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">假設</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">假設</span><span lang="EN-US">~</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">田中馬的簡章公告是全馬組限額</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">千人</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">賽後卻發現有</span><span lang="EN-US">3500</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">人參賽全馬組</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">多出來的</span><span lang="EN-US">500</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">位選手</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">跟大會簡章公告不符</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">我的名次因為多出來的</span><span lang="EN-US">500</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">位</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這</span><span lang="EN-US">500</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">位之一</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">可能幹掉原來</span><span lang="EN-US">3</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">千位的總一或其他該得獎選手</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">而受影響</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">或者是大會的賽務</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">含報名在內</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">不公</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">我可以向大會申訴或請求解釋嗎</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">其實</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">現況是有一些黑暗之處</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">因為女子組選手得獎是相對容易的</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">如果有男選手跑到女選手的號碼布</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">或者報錯性別</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">或者是比較年輕的女選手拿了比較年長組別的號碼布來偷跑</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">不小心得獎的機率都不低</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">反正</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">獎盃上又不記名</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">如果又有獎金或獎品可領</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">都可以偷跑了</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">為什麼不偷領</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">接下來的問題是如何上台不被抓包而已</span><span lang="EN-US">…..</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">通常這種情況很好解決</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">請人代領或是自已領</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">說是代領就好了</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">台灣一些該正經的賽會主辦單位</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">對於防弊作為不主動</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">幾近完全失守</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">再丟給選手自已去解決處理</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">賽會不在乎</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體; 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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5022" rel="nofollow">hhhww</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-02 at 10:12pm<br /><br />低調是好的方向，<br />太高調的話，有一妙方可嘗試看看，po上來？，讓婉君公論？<br />只能說，代跑又高調者？，李義薕...？<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-02 at 8:46pm<br /><br />其實代跑如果低調些<br />根本不成問題<br />我們又不是明星，誰會注意到我們啊<br />只是有的代跑太誇張了<br />我也有看過男生幫女生跑<br />還大喇喇炫耀拿到的獎品呢<br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />編輯者 algebra0001 - 2015-02-02 at 8:46pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4405" rel="nofollow">Luke</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-01-23 at 3:41pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />其實我是覺得<br>代跑者有很多理由，也各自論述<br>但我覺得至少不要影響名次<br>還有，發生問題時，那個保險也是爭議呢</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>坦白說<br>我不覺得發生代跑是甚麼萬惡之事</div><div>但就如您所說<br><br>若這個A代跑者因為不論甚麼因素他無法搶到某賽事的報名<br>但心中又非常想要參加的話，取得轉讓就務必注意不要影響他人名次</div><div><br></div><div>而就算是這個A代跑者的確有這個實力足以得名亦如此</div><div><br></div><div>其實我就是因為在泰雅馬遇到這樣事情<br>但老實說我也不知道到底有沒有理去爭取<br>畢竟技不如人是事實.....<br><br>另外~保險安全部分也是最重要的問題，沒有發生事故的狀況下其實一且都好。但就怕萬一。</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-01-21 at 8:55pm<br /><br />其實我是覺得<br />代跑者有很多理由，也各自論述<br />但我覺得至少不要影響名次<br />還有，發生問題時，那個保險也是爭議呢]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4635" rel="nofollow">鐵馬小丁</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-01-21 at 9:00am<br /><br />代跑還送審成績而且註明代跑,哇!?想法大不同啊!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4405" rel="nofollow">Luke</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-01-14 at 1:47am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 王坤樹</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 netx</strong></em><br /><br /><div>應該還不只吧 一路上一堆人都是單人配雙晶片!</div></td></tr></table><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">或許吧！</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">但在不告不理及檢舉要提出證據佐證下，我們只能採無罪推論，不能濫行處分。</font></div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>終於找到舊文可以諮詢</div><div><br></div><div>小弟最近跑馬遇到一些景況</div><div><br></div><div>1.泰雅馬，同一組的跑友因故轉讓給他人，結果接受轉讓者獲得分組名次，而我剛好就是被排擠掉上台的最後一位</div><div>我必須承認我技不如人，但這種感覺著實覺得有點不公平....<br>&lt;已確定該名得獎跑者非號碼布本人，並且也取得證實原報名者未參加賽事。&gt;</div><div><br></div><div>2.烏來峽谷超半馬，主要非與本人有關，但是是在馬拉松世界的跑友紀錄中看到的文章，反映明明是總4，實際上卻變成總5。</div><div>由於僅前5名，於是我就根據大會公布的成績，搜尋了4個攝影師，在終點前、終點前1K左右的照片，其中也包含allsports的號碼布辨識照片，的確真的未能發現該名跑者。</div><div>而事實上，那一位在<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">馬拉松世界分享文章的跑友也有表示，那一位跑者未上台領獎</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">這是否又是一件詭譎的代跑/假跑事件？</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">我不得而知，但我認為，賽事主辦單位要嚴查才是......</span></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 8:28pm<br /><br />我當然沒差啊<div>我只是覺得好像這些東西都是簡章背後的進行呢</div><div>不過您說的沒錯</div><div>俺只要有馬跑就好了</div><div>實在不用想那麼多</div><div>呵呵呵</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4052" rel="nofollow">常士備役小胖豬</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 8:23pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />哇，我還真是馬拉松世界的新生呢<div><br></div><div>我又突然想到</div><div>這些優秀選手誰來認定？誰來邀請？</div><div>先不論這種國際性幾十萬、幾百萬的獎金</div><div>國內比賽應該也會有幾萬元的獎金吧？</div><div>難道主辦單位會去邀請所有的優秀選手嗎？</div><div>（我想應該是不可能）</div><div>如果主辦單位只會邀請一些主辦單位自己認定的優秀選手</div><div>那這些獎金不就會變成指定給誰的報酬嗎？</div><div>還是我想太多了呢？</div></td></tr></table><br>沒差吧？<br><br>好比之前奧運的時候，肯亞有兩百多位達奧運Ｂ標選手<br><br>主辦單位哪有可能花錢把這兩百多人都找過來？<br><br>就算您口袋深願意贊助好了，一場台灣賽事前兩百多名都是黑旋風，難道不會感到哪裡不太恰當嗎？<br><br>當然您若是不願意獎金被這些人賺走，跑比他們快就好了<br><br><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5581" rel="nofollow">竹北福田魚</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 10:41am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />其實我有時候會覺得納悶<div>現行部分的報名很容易被秒殺</div><div>會不會出現該場比賽的第一名成績超過3小時呢？</div><div>因為精英選手都沒有報上</div><div>結果事實卻不是如此</div><div>看過大家的說明，我猜，原來有的大會可以主動邀請或保留名額或......</div><div>那位何不直接載明於簡章中呢？</div><div>還是這其中有不能寫出來的秘密呢？</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>我認為遊戲規則是人定出來的<img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div><div>也可以訂出~~</div><div>初馬優先報名的馬拉松</div><div>或不提供紙杯的馬拉松</div><div>或限制四小時跑完的馬拉松</div><div>只要在簡章中載明,那有何不可呢?<img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 8:33am<br /><br />哇，我還真是馬拉松世界的新生呢<div><br></div><div>我又突然想到</div><div>這些優秀選手誰來認定？誰來邀請？</div><div>先不論這種國際性幾十萬、幾百萬的獎金</div><div>國內比賽應該也會有幾萬元的獎金吧？</div><div>難道主辦單位會去邀請所有的優秀選手嗎？</div><div>（我想應該是不可能）</div><div>如果主辦單位只會邀請一些主辦單位自己認定的優秀選手</div><div>那這些獎金不就會變成指定給誰的報酬嗎？</div><div>還是我想太多了呢？</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6258" rel="nofollow">Richard.Chou</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 6:48am<br /><br />很多賽事連英文網站也無，非洲選手不去邀請怎麼出現？簡章是給一般人看的，不用連出場費都公開吧？]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 4:52am<br /><br />其實我有時候會覺得納悶<div>現行部分的報名很容易被秒殺</div><div>會不會出現該場比賽的第一名成績超過3小時呢？</div><div>因為精英選手都沒有報上</div><div>結果事實卻不是如此</div><div>看過大家的說明，我猜，原來有的大會可以主動邀請或保留名額或......</div><div>那位何不直接載明於簡章中呢？</div><div>還是這其中有不能寫出來的秘密呢？</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4052" rel="nofollow">常士備役小胖豬</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 3:01am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 PERNG</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 sengsong</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 竹北福田魚</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />不過我拋出一個想法<div>那些所謂高手，譬如說可以達到SUB3的跑者</div><div>是否有可以保證的名額空間呢？</div><div>我不知道這樣是否成熟</div><div>尤其是這些冠上國際的名稱</div><div>總不能叫他們也跟著大家擠很困難報上的系統吧？</div><div>不過這樣好像又有點不公平</div><div>還是可以在總人數外加他們的保障名額呢？</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>其實國內能跑進三小時或三小時半之內的人數比列不高</div><div>給他們保障另闢報名管道,在截止報名時間之內報名</div><div>我覺得保障鼓勵高手能夠順利報名參賽,絕對會是好事</div><div>這在簡章上公開聲明,這樣會不好嗎?</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>那就學波馬囉！</div><div>譬如說：半年內有三個半小時內的正式紀錄，就可以提早一週報名（因為要審核）</div><div>像我們這種名次是從後面數過來的就乖乖的等開放民眾報名後再去廝殺搶票了 ...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></td></tr></table><div>我支持大會用額外的名額去邀請高手參賽</div><div>否則像近年許多比賽一開放報名就秒殺</div><div>如果報進去的都是後段班同學</div><div>整個大會成績都是4-5小時完賽</div><div>感覺也沒啥精彩的</div></td></tr></table><br>不過台灣的馬拉松似乎競賽性質比較薄弱<br><br>感覺比較多屬於希望大家來家鄉坐坐甚至消費、以及替地方打知名度等等的<br><br>把後段班優先剔除的話感覺就有點不太符合大會主辦賽事的目的了.......<br><br>小弟覺得高手反正幾乎都有管道或快手替自己報名，應該是影響不大，可能還會主動邀請或保留名額<br><br>畢竟不管是怎樣熱門的賽事，頒獎台上好像都是那一批人，報名難度似乎都和他們絕緣........<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5173" rel="nofollow">PERNG</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-05 at 12:25am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 sengsong</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 竹北福田魚</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />不過我拋出一個想法<div>那些所謂高手，譬如說可以達到SUB3的跑者</div><div>是否有可以保證的名額空間呢？</div><div>我不知道這樣是否成熟</div><div>尤其是這些冠上國際的名稱</div><div>總不能叫他們也跟著大家擠很困難報上的系統吧？</div><div>不過這樣好像又有點不公平</div><div>還是可以在總人數外加他們的保障名額呢？</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>其實國內能跑進三小時或三小時半之內的人數比列不高</div><div>給他們保障另闢報名管道,在截止報名時間之內報名</div><div>我覺得保障鼓勵高手能夠順利報名參賽,絕對會是好事</div><div>這在簡章上公開聲明,這樣會不好嗎?</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>那就學波馬囉！</div><div>譬如說：半年內有三個半小時內的正式紀錄，就可以提早一週報名（因為要審核）</div><div>像我們這種名次是從後面數過來的就乖乖的等開放民眾報名後再去廝殺搶票了 ...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></td></tr></table><div>我支持大會用額外的名額去邀請高手參賽</div><div>否則像近年許多比賽一開放報名就秒殺</div><div>如果報進去的都是後段班同學</div><div>整個大會成績都是4-5小時完賽</div><div>感覺也沒啥精彩的</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3930" rel="nofollow">sengsong</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 11:52pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 竹北福田魚</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />不過我拋出一個想法<div>那些所謂高手，譬如說可以達到SUB3的跑者</div><div>是否有可以保證的名額空間呢？</div><div>我不知道這樣是否成熟</div><div>尤其是這些冠上國際的名稱</div><div>總不能叫他們也跟著大家擠很困難報上的系統吧？</div><div>不過這樣好像又有點不公平</div><div>還是可以在總人數外加他們的保障名額呢？</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>其實國內能跑進三小時或三小時半之內的人數比列不高</div><div>給他們保障另闢報名管道,在截止報名時間之內報名</div><div>我覺得保障鼓勵高手能夠順利報名參賽,絕對會是好事</div><div>這在簡章上公開聲明,這樣會不好嗎?</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>那就學波馬囉！</div><div>譬如說：半年內有三個半小時內的正式紀錄，就可以提早一週報名（因為要審核）</div><div>像我們這種名次是從後面數過來的就乖乖的等開放民眾報名後再去廝殺搶票了 ...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 9:01pm<br /><br />我跑步的初衷<div>哈哈，是為了減肥啦</div><div>而報馬拉松的初衷</div><div>就是為了持續跑下去</div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5581" rel="nofollow">竹北福田魚</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 7:57pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 algebra0001</strong></em><br /><br />不過我拋出一個想法<div>那些所謂高手，譬如說可以達到SUB3的跑者</div><div>是否有可以保證的名額空間呢？</div><div>我不知道這樣是否成熟</div><div>尤其是這些冠上國際的名稱</div><div>總不能叫他們也跟著大家擠很困難報上的系統吧？</div><div>不過這樣好像又有點不公平</div><div>還是可以在總人數外加他們的保障名額呢？</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>其實國內能跑進三小時或三小時半之內的人數比列不高</div><div>給他們保障另闢報名管道,在截止報名時間之內報名</div><div>我覺得保障鼓勵高手能夠順利報名參賽,絕對會是好事</div><div>這在簡章上公開聲明,這樣會不好嗎?</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52" rel="nofollow">tgchen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 7:56pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 malonlon</strong></em><br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">..............(略！)令我感慨的是</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">高雄馬</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">該正經</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">也很正經</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">萬金石</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">該正經</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">卻不怎麼正經</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">櫻花馬</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">不用那麼正經</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">事後檢討卻超正經</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">最近一些討論的共識</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">就是檢討前要先了解賽會自我設定的本質是什麼</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">再來探究後續的作為或反應是否合理或得當</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></td></tr></table> <DIV></DIV><FONT size=5>有同感焉 ! 首先，因為跑馬場次越來越頻繁、報名人數越來越多。為了搶食巿場大餅，主辦單位的廣告變得五彩繽紛，有可能因而模糊了焦點。</FONT><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><FONT size=5>也因此不管準備好了沒有，急著報名卡位的也越來越多。至少會產生一個後遺症：把活動簡章或看過的人越來越少，選手對競賽規則也不加理會，直到比賽過後預期與結果差距拉大，仔細一看，可能預期早已&#24487;離現實。<BR><BR>Hold住跑步的初衷(初心)：為了減肥、為了健身、為了紓壓、．．．．．<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>]]>
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   <title>馬拉松  代跑問題 : 因為先前某幾場報名秒殺的現象,可預見地,將伴隨著另一種現象的...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=551" rel="nofollow">malonlon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 5:32pm<br /><br /><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">因為先前某幾場報名秒殺的現象</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">可預見地</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">將伴隨著另一種現象的存在</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">如果不是現在開始重視談論代跑的課題的話</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">但即使是了解這樣的現象也還是無解</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">A</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">和</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">B</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">是公司</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">機關</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">裡的同事</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.A</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">為了搶名額先報了名</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">結果到時排不到假</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">請</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">B</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">代跑</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">當</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">B</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">發生同樣的情況時</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">也請</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">A</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">代跑</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">兩人互相約定完跑時間設定在</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">5</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">小時左右</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">這樣的結果如果單用數字來看</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">~</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">兩人真的各跑了一場馬拉松</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">也都只有一張証書</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">除了場次名稱不符外</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">),</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">登錄普查數字也都只有</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">+1.(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">其實這個數字並不重要</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">對他們來講可有可無</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">因為後頭有更實質的東西</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">),</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">完成時間也不嚴重到影響他人</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">請問有什麼不對的地方</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">再說</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">~</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">兩個人不僅互助</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">因為這樣的互助</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">可以得到公司</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">機關</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">設定的獎勵</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">或者可以延續某場次</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">VIP</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">資格的年資累積</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">老實說</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">只要低調一些不被發現</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">不這麼幹的話</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">真的是頭殼壞掉了</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">!</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN lang=EN-US><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">可是這種情形</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">連我這位不相干的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">C</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">都猜想得的到了</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">紙哪能包得住火</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">所以長此以往</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">可能會出現這樣的場景</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">…..</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">當你有一天在向朋友炫耀你的馬拉松証書時</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">你的朋友可能會吐你</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">……</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">真的還是假的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">上次公司裡那個誰</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">不是才幫誰跑了一張証書</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">…..</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">有什麼稀奇的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">其實跑多了</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">看多了</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">不管好的壞的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">都只能照單全收</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">好的就像是跑友悼念李前局長發起的陪跑活動這樣讓你懷念的馬拉松圈風氣</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">壞的就比如像代跑的</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">不是很公平的被檢舉來呈現</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT face="Times New Roman">.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" =Ms&#111;normal><FONT size=3><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; 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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2782" rel="nofollow">高雄小瑜</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 4:30pm<br /><br />實力夠,名氣夠的跑者會被大會私下邀請,有時候實話說得太明或當人看不懂就會被說成不合邏輯或離題,辦好一場馬拉松不僅是裁判的責任也是參與這場馬拉松所有人的責任,很多人似乎一直在忌惡如仇般的來報怨不公平來報怨作弊,但自己到底有沒有自己想過我們自己在這一生當中對任何人對任何事情的對待上都也完全公平?如果沒有我們就都沒有任何資格在這邊來評斷別人,你要知道處理一件事情上報紙或處以極刑不一定比觸膝而談來得有用,稜稜角角很會傷人,我們所需要的是稜稜角角還是圓圓融融?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5498" rel="nofollow">linsm</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-04 at 11:45am<br /><br />SUB3跑者其實不必要跟一般跑者競爭一般馬拉松名額，他們需要的是會被其他大賽承認的經認證的比賽，反過來說，有要求比賽需經國際認證的，應該也要求參賽者有一定的水準才能參賽，才不會浪費資源。<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3903" rel="nofollow">algebra0001</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 4:15pm<br /><br />不過我拋出一個想法<div>那些所謂高手，譬如說可以達到SUB3的跑者</div><div>是否有可以保證的名額空間呢？</div><div>我不知道這樣是否成熟</div><div>尤其是這些冠上國際的名稱</div><div>總不能叫他們也跟著大家擠很困難報上的系統吧？</div><div>不過這樣好像又有點不公平</div><div>還是可以在總人數外加他們的保障名額呢？</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1513" rel="nofollow">ㄚ福</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 2:07pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 netx</strong></em><br /><br /><div>...任何運動比賽!不管里程多寡!都要遵守運動規範</div><div>雖然我跑的馬不多(25馬)我敢大聲的說</div><div>只要起跑鳴槍後 所有偷雞摸狗的事我都沒做過</div><div>雖然有時候身體到了極限 也很想切西瓜(前後都沒人)</div><div>但是我都會堅持 既然要比賽就是挑戰自己&nbsp;</div><div>少跑了幾百公尺 是對不起自己的良心</div><div>這一馬我拿的不心安 不理得</div><div>何必呢?</div><div>比賽辦的好或不好是主辦的事情</div><div>身為跑者就要有跑者的自傲!!</div><div>堅持運動家精神!!不是嗎?</div><div><br></div></td></tr></table><span style='font-family: "新細明體","serif"; font-size: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-ansi-: EN-US; mso-fareast-: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-: AR-SA;'>這就是「馬拉松」精神<img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" />！相信馬場有許許多多和你一樣堅持信念的人。<img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" /><img src="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" /></span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6073" rel="nofollow">初學者K</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 11:49am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 netx</strong></em><br /><br />因為號碼布轉讓本來就會影響到很多的東西!<div>資料變更是最麻煩的&nbsp;</div><div>並不是把號碼布交給你要轉的人的身上就好了</div><div>所以絕大部分主辦單位 都不接受轉讓(極少部份願意接受)</div><div>任何運動比賽!不管里程多寡!都要遵守運動規範</div><div>雖然我跑的馬不多(25馬)我敢大聲的說</div><div>只要起跑鳴槍後 所有偷雞摸狗的事我都沒做過</div><div>雖然有時候身體到了極限 也很想切西瓜(前後都沒人)</div><div>但是我都會堅持 既然要比賽就是挑戰自己&nbsp;</div><div>少跑了幾百公尺 是對不起自己的良心</div><div>這一馬我拿的不心安 不理得</div><div>何必呢?</div><div>比賽辦的好或不好是主辦的事情</div><div>身為跑者就要有跑者的自傲!!</div><div>堅持運動家精神!!不是嗎?</div><div><br></div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>恩.. 認同運動家精神!!!!!~~~~</div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;">我也沒</span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">切過西瓜.... 跑步本來就是跟自己挑戰</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;">若只是得到帳面上的成績!!!那也缺少了一點意義</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;"><br></span></div><div>不過....... 跑不動還是會用走的~~~~ 羞</div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4254" rel="nofollow">netx</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 11:24am<br /><br />因為號碼布轉讓本來就會影響到很多的東西!<div>資料變更是最麻煩的&nbsp;</div><div>並不是把號碼布交給你要轉的人的身上就好了</div><div>所以絕大部分主辦單位 都不接受轉讓(極少部份願意接受)</div><div>任何運動比賽!不管里程多寡!都要遵守運動規範</div><div>雖然我跑的馬不多(25馬)我敢大聲的說</div><div>只要起跑鳴槍後 所有偷雞摸狗的事我都沒做過</div><div>雖然有時候身體到了極限 也很想切西瓜(前後都沒人)</div><div>但是我都會堅持 既然要比賽就是挑戰自己&nbsp;</div><div>少跑了幾百公尺 是對不起自己的良心</div><div>這一馬我拿的不心安 不理得</div><div>何必呢?</div><div>比賽辦的好或不好是主辦的事情</div><div>身為跑者就要有跑者的自傲!!</div><div>堅持運動家精神!!不是嗎?</div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=199" rel="nofollow">王坤樹</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 10:17am<br /><br /><font color="#ff0000" size="5">2013北馬雙溪櫻花馬拉松  公告</font><div></div><div> </div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">下列組選手經審核後，確實是單人配雙晶片違規下場參賽，競賽成績全部取消，特予公告周知。</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">0175   張義君 、0177  杜仲書</font></div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">1085   鄭吟豪 、1086  鄭吟傑   </font><div></div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">1306   林育正 、1633  劉宗仁<div></div><div>1532   陳文福 、1533  楊禮嘉  </div></font><div></div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">1898   陳俊樺 、1899  曹晏誠</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">4063   徐信義 、4484  高玉金</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff" size="3">&nbsp;&nbsp; </font></div><div> </div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>馬拉松  代跑問題 : 恩,我在回文中並沒有提到要改資料???且在此文章應該都以 半馬以上的距離來討論!!!若低於半馬,像3K...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6423" rel="nofollow">lonely</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 9:23am<br /><br /><div>恩,我在回文中並沒有提到要改資料???<div><span style="line-height: 1.4;">且在此文章應該都以 半馬以上的距離來討論!!!</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;"><font color="#3300FF"><b>若低於半馬</b></font>,像3K 8K,12K的比賽基本上好像都不會列入路跑的累積成積裡!!</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.4;">如：10馬/50馬/百馬獎.. 等!!!</span></div><div><br></div><br>不是低於半馬哦，是要<font size="4"><b><font color="#6600CC">高於</font></b></font>全馬才能計算一馬<br>而且沒有50馬獎<br><br><br><br></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>馬拉松  代跑問題 :   文章發表人 ㄚ福  記得多年前，某位知名高手，賽...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5581" rel="nofollow">竹北福田魚</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 13463<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2013-04-03 at 8:28am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 ㄚ福</strong></em><br /><br /><div></div><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "新細明體","serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast;'><font size="3">記得多年前，某位知名高手，賽前主辦單位公告之選手「名單」未列其中，但競賽時卻出賽（顯獲主辦單位同意，而取得號碼布），最後競賽結果，進入名次並獲頒獎金，然！問題來了！事後經其他選手抗議，揚言上告體委會，主辦單位自知理虧，私下解決，這是主辦單位不遵守自己所訂的規則！<span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><font size="3" face="新細明體"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "新細明體","serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast;' lang="EN-US"><o:p><font size="3">&nbsp;</font></o:p></span></p><font size="3" face="新細明體"></font><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style='font-family: "新細明體","serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-fareast;'><font size="3">競賽講求公正、公開、公平性，無論選手或主辦單位都應遵守競賽規則，不因惡小而為之<span lang="EN-US">...</span>這是法律與品德問題，也是學校在專技教育外，須重視的課程！</font></span></p><font size="3" face="新細明體"></font></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><font size="4">這有點像是舉辦抽獎活動,安排自己人暗中得獎的嫌疑</font></div><div><font size="4">請高手報名,勿在公開報名截止日之後插隊</font></div><div><font size="4"></font>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 08:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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