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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 :  文章發表人 順元 有所為而有所不為；而能為而不為之謂之怠...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3409" rel="nofollow">蓮霧ㄟ</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-11 at 10:04am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 順元</strong></em><br /><br /><FONT size=4>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 有所為而有所不為；而能為而不為之謂之怠。其實綜觀每場賽事收費不一，但每每比較，相同收費就會有不同作為。有的主辦單位能感同身受跑者的需要，能給的都會給；另則能省則省，假環保、趨勢之名行方便賺很大之實。有些貼心的主辦單位，現場列印證書還加贈資料保護夾，就怕跑者弄髒、弄濕或折壞。小小作為就能讓跑者覺得窩心。(也許!有人認為這樣會寵壞跑者) <DIV></DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 回到終點現場能拿到證書及獎牌；多數跑者不在意成績排名，但至少認為篤實跑回一馬的認證。而主辦單位能現場發給的實質意義勝過事後自行列印的感覺。就像拿現金跟拿支票的感覺不一樣喜好不一，但總覺得拿現金比較踏實吧!(純屬個人蠢見，如有不悅之處請大爺息怒!)</FONT></td></tr></table> <DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.taipeimarath&#111;n.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><DIV><img src="http://www.taipeimarath&#111;n.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><DIV><img src="http://www.taipeimarath&#111;n.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><DIV><img src="http://www.taipeimarath&#111;n.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /><DIV><img src="http://www.taipeimarath&#111;n.org.tw/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" height="17" width="23" border="0" alt="Thumbs Up" title="Thumbs Up" /></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>]]>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 :    有所為而有所不為；而能為而不為之謂之怠。其實綜觀每...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4926" rel="nofollow">順元</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-10 at 11:24pm<br /><br /><font size="4">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 有所為而有所不為；而能為而不為之謂之怠。其實綜觀每場賽事收費不一，但每每比較，相同收費就會有不同作為。有的主辦單位能感同身受跑者的需要，能給的都會給；另則能省則省，假環保、趨勢之名行方便賺很大之實。有些貼心的主辦單位，現場列印證書還加贈資料保護夾，就怕跑者弄髒、弄濕或折壞。小小作為就能讓跑者覺得窩心。(也許!有人認為這樣會寵壞跑者) <div></div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 回到終點現場能拿到證書及獎牌；多數跑者不在意成績排名，但至少認為篤實跑回一馬的認證。而主辦單位能現場發給的實質意義勝過事後自行列印的感覺。就像拿現金跟拿支票的感覺不一樣喜好不一，但總覺得拿現金比較踏實吧!(純屬個人蠢見，如有不悅之處請大爺息怒!)</font>]]>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 : 我成績差所以和成績證明相較之下比較在乎完成牌,但回想跑馬初期...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4635" rel="nofollow">鐵馬小丁</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-10 at 9:41am<br /><br />我成績差所以和成績證明相較之下比較在乎完成牌,但回想跑馬初期,凡是與馬相關皆為收藏諸如:秩序冊,號碼布,寄物卡,紀念衫,毛巾,信物,贈品...但累積至今只以保存證書和獎牌為主.當初留下回憶的價值當然仍在,改變的是紀念的方式隨著賽事增加而簡化了.<DIV>回到聊天的主題,我領證明的目的是為了送審普查,所以只要能證明,紙本或電子檔對我而言沒差,但有點小討厭PDF檔,因為審查證書時開檔案比較久,一堆證書審下來,多幾秒開檔案的累積也挺煩人的.</DIV><DIV>好吧!所以我個人是喜歡簡章或大會講清楚發證明的方式,讓我提前知道跑完要不要領,去哪裡領即可.</DIV>]]>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 :    文章發表人 malonlon觀察了這個議題一個星...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1451" rel="nofollow">安樂使</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-09 at 10:21pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 malonlon</strong></em><br /><br /><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">觀察了這個議題一個星期了</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">討論內容大概還停在當初路協決定只提供電子檔時</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">那段時間的討論層次</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><font color="#FF0000"><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">老實說我感到相當失望</span></font><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span lang="EN-US">…<br></span></p><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><font color="#FF0000"><span style="font-family: &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;">競賽組因為要求証書上名次的正確性</span></font><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">所以証書事後給</span><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">先不管是紙本郵寄或只給電子檔</span><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US">),</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">非競賽組</span><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">成績排名並不延續在競賽組內</span><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">所以可以當場發給紙本証書</span><span style="color:#00B050" lang="EN-US">.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><font color="#FF0000"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">如果你想當場拿到証書</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">那你卻選擇報名競賽組</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">那就是在哭夭了</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">有沒有道理很容易界定</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></font></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">但我知道</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這樣處理</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">大會很麻煩</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">不只兩道工</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">是很多道工</span><span lang="EN-US">….</span></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span lang="EN-US">…</span></p><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">現況是</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">越來越多的場次</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><font color="#FF0000"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">既提供當場列印証書</span></font><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">或者出包當場印不出來改郵寄</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">跟成績正確性較無關</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><font color="#FF0000"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">也提供電子檔証書下載的服務</span></font><span lang="EN-US">.(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">因為當場印出証書確實有被雨淋</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">折到</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">遺失</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">天有不測風雲等等困擾</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin"><font color="#FF0000">這個才是趨勢</font>吧</span><span lang="EN-US">!<br>…<br></span><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">結論</span><span lang="EN-US">:</span><font color="#FF0000"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">慢慢會被淘汱的</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">是只提供紙本的晶片商吧</span><span lang="EN-US">!</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">所以硬要我選</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">我選這個吧</span></font><span lang="EN-US">)</span></p>…<p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">而<font color="#FF0000">只單單提供電子檔這個選項的賽會</font></span><font color="#FF0000"><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">在現階段</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">老實說</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">在什麼筆記裡的評比一定會被放大視為重大缺失而評比不高</span></font><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">…</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">在前提的不同下</span><span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">,1~5</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">原先的優缺點可能不存在或變異</span><span style="color:  #C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">況且</span><span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">選項</span><span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">2</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">有個大問題</span><span style="color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">!</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">畢竟賽會裡不得獎的選手比起會得獎或得獎邊緣的選手比例要來得多得多</span><span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">名次正確性並不是這群人關心的重點</span><span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">所以選項</span><span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">2</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">一開始就註定輸給選項</span><span style="color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2" lang="EN-US">1.<o:p></o:p></span></p><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></td></tr></table><br><br>首先感謝毛兄長篇文回應。<br><br>1、我也很失望。<br><br>2、<font color="#0000FF">競賽組跑者要求證書上名次的正確性</font>？我認為<font color="#FF0000">不一定</font>，應該是「<font color="#FF0000">得獎人及可能得獎的人（苦主）</font>」才會，不可能得獎的人不見得會特別要求證書上名次的正確性。反過來說，馬拉松跑超過5小時的<font color="#FF0000">後段班也可能希望名次的正確性</font>，但卻有可能因為大會的分流報名而無法參加競賽組，因而也只能放棄報名嘉年華組。如果有資格參加競賽組，也想參加競賽組，<font color="#FF0000">並不要求名次的正確性，也想當場拿到列印的證書，不希望拿電子檔證書，這樣要被靠么</font>？<br><br>3、「<font color="#0000FF">現況是愈來愈多的場次既提供當場列印證書也提供電子檔證書的下載服務，這個才是趨勢</font>」？？有哪些場次是這樣的？<font color="#FF0000">我不認為這是正確的現況描述</font>。目前的現況應該是「<font color="#FF0000">只提供當場列印證書，但並未提供電子檔證書的下載服務</font>」，這才是最多的吧！目前「只提供電子檔證書」的可能只有路協的比賽及2015北馬櫻花馬這場，就怕未來有樣學樣，以後的比賽大會都這樣搞，就會形成「趨勢」了，這也是我最怕的結果。<br><br>4、所以對本討論的問題，<font color="#FF0000">你的選擇是選項「1」嗎</font>？<br><br>5、我孤陋寡聞，並沒有看到什麼這場比賽在「運動筆記」裡的討論有人在批評證書電子檔化的問題，在意的人似乎不多。（今晚無聊去運動筆記根據251位參賽的跑者評分做了有關成績證明這部分的統計，跑者們給一顆星的有38位，二顆星的32位，三顆星的70位，四顆星的70位，五顆星的41位。看起來<font color="#FF0000">不滿意現場未列印成績的跑者只有70位</font>，只佔<font color="#FF0000">28％</font>左右，有高達72％跑者是不在意電子檔證書的。而如果我們把它當做這些星等是「很差」、「差」、「普通」、「好」、「很好」來看的話，認為是好的有111位，也有佔44％，可見得多數人似乎是不在意的。而以文字針<font color="#FF0000">對成績證明未能現場列印提出批評的則有23人，只接近10％</font>）<br><br>6、我這個跑者民意調查只是簡單的調查跑者們<font color="#FF0000">主觀的感受及想法</font>，先不管什麼不同的前提或變異，不是在寫論文，沒那麼嚴謹。<br><br>7、<font color="#0000FF">會選擇選項2的跑者的確一開始就會輸給選項1</font>，本來這兩個選項的原先設定就是一樣的，那就是<font color="#FF0000">都希望拿到紙本的成績證明</font>，因為也許<font color="#FF0000">有人不在意</font>成績名次的正確性，<font color="#FF0000">有人會在意</font>，所以才把他分成兩個選項，統計結束後，可以分別分析及合起來列為同一項分析。<br><br>最後，我有個問題想請教所有的跑者，賽後用晶片計時系統來做比賽成績的處理，晶片公司如果當場有<font color="#FF0000">提供紙本列印成績證明的服務，事後也在大會網站上提供電子檔證書的下載</font>，多了這後面的「提供電子檔下載證書」的服務<font color="#FF0000">會增加很多成本嗎</font>？我直接認為應該不會太困難或增加太多成本吧？希望各位了解的朋友能告知。如果成本不高，希望所有比賽大會能多採「現場列印加電子檔下載成績證明」的服務。<br><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />編輯者 安樂使 - 2015-02-09 at 11:29pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=551" rel="nofollow">malonlon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-09 at 6:22pm<br /><br /><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">觀察了這個議題一個星期了</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">討論內容大概還停在當初路協決定只提供電子檔時</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">那段時間的討論層次</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">老實說我感到相當失望</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">讓我們回到這個討論串中</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這次主辦單位的設定是</span><span lang="EN-US">~</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">當場列印証書是不對的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">因為有著証書上名次的不確定性</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">…..--&gt;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">所以待大會結束完成一段時間的檢舉和公告程序後</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">再來寄發是比較對的作法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">…..&gt;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">但是事後寄發紙本証書</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">存在著產生郵寄費</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">不管是大會或跑者負&#25285;都是不必要的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">而且郵寄過程所產生的碳排放並不環保</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">……...--&gt;</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">所以只提供電子檔供下戴</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#0070C0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#0070C0">讓選手自我選擇列印或不列印</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">然而</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">小弟我的想法是</span><span lang="EN-US">~</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">當場列印証書雖然有它的缺點</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">但有沒有可能改善它的缺點</span><span lang="EN-US">?</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">其實是有的</span><span lang="EN-US">:</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">方法之一就是大會採取的方法</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">我稱為迴避法或跳躍法</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">跳過修正問題本身</span><span lang="EN-US">).</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">而其他辦法是</span><span lang="EN-US">~</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">*</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">徹底改善法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">:(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">台灣的賽會走向分級制</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">先分成馬拉松</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">賽</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”&amp;</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">馬拉松</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">嘉年華</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">兩個等級</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">界定的方式有許多層面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">我先舉最簡單的方法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">賽的獎勵有細到分組層面</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">而嘉年華則完全沒有錄取獎勵或者像那霸那樣</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">兩萬多人只取名次前廿這樣很微小的方式</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">賽會選擇放棄獎勵變成嘉年華模式</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">選手就只有完賽或未完賽</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">完賽的每個選手都是第一名</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">呈現在証書上的方式</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">可以不列印排名</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">或者是</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">參考排名</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">或</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">証書序號</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">”,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">那麼試問</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">當場列印証書</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">還有什麼問題</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">?</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B0F0">有何不可</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B0F0">?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">*</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">兩面討好法</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#00B050">如果賽會捨不得放棄獎勵區塊</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">又想辦成賽又想辦成嘉年華</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">兩面討好</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">田中馬模式是一個好的參考</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">.(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">田中馬報名時</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">有全馬</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">5</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">小時內外兩個組別選項</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">我是覺得合理是用</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">4</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">小時來劃分競賽組和非競賽組就可以了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#00B050">競賽組因為要求証書上名次的正確性</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">所以証書事後給</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">先不管是紙本郵寄或只給電子檔</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">),</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">非競賽組</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">成績排名並不延續在競賽組內</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">所以可以當場發給紙本証書</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">如果你想當場拿到証書</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">那你卻選擇報名競賽組</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">那就是在哭夭了</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">有沒有道理很容易界定</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">但我知道</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這樣處理</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">大會很麻煩</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">不只兩道工</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">是很多道工</span><span lang="EN-US">….</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">上述方法大會一定覺得不可行</span><span lang="EN-US">!</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">因為麻煩</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">所以大會有大會的麻煩</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">而覺得不當場列印証書的跑友</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">他有他的麻煩</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">兩個麻煩沒有交集解決的可能</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">其實也不是沒有什麼解決交集的可能</span><span lang="EN-US">!</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#00B050">可以把麻煩都丟給</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">…..</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#00B050">晶片商</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#00B050">!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">晶片商在競爭之下</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">所提供的服務愈來愈額外且多元</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">現況是</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">越來越多的場次</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">既提供當場列印証書</span><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">或者出包當場印不出來改郵寄</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">跟成績正確性較無關</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">也提供電子檔証書下載的服務</span><span lang="EN-US">.(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">因為當場印出証書確實有被雨淋</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">折到</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">遺失</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">天有不測風雲等等困擾</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">這個才是趨勢吧</span><span lang="EN-US">!</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">僅提供電子檔的賽會</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">報名網和終點計時的晶片商選擇是一致的話</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">其實也不用那麼硬</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">在報名網給選手選擇一個</span><span lang="EN-US">50</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">元<span style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">加價購</span>列印証書</span><span lang="EN-US">+</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">郵寄的選項</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這部份交給晶片商來處理</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">決定發給紙本証書的單位</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">也該讓選手有選擇權</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">是否當場列印時我就不要去排隊領</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">這可以在號碼布上得到</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">環保大使</span><span lang="EN-US">”</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">的註記</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">或是事後不收到郵寄</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">當然</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">前提是</span><span lang="EN-US">~</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">要求晶片商要提供選手電子檔</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">結論</span><span lang="EN-US">:</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">慢慢會被淘汱的</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">是只提供紙本的晶片商吧</span><span lang="EN-US">!</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">所以硬要我選</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">我選這個吧</span><span lang="EN-US">)</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">而只單單提供電子檔這個選項的賽會</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">在現階段</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">老實說</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">在什麼筆記裡的評比一定會被放大視為重大缺失而評比不高</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">就好像教師評鑑制度</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">會當人的老師</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">被當的學生在學期末會給老師不好分數來報復</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">而沒被當的學生</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">並不會上網去評鑑</span><span lang="EN-US">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin">這樣</span><span lang="EN-US">,</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin">這個制度</span><span lang="EN-US">???</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">在前提的不同下</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">,1~5</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">原先的優缺點可能不存在或變異</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:  #C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:  Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;  mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:  minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">況且</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">,</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">選項</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">2</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">有個大問題</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">!</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;  mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:  新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;  mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">畢竟賽會裡不得獎的選手比起會得獎或得獎邊緣的選手比例要來得多得多</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">.</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">名次正確性並不是這群人關心的重點</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">.</span><span style="font-family:  &quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;  mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;mso-hansi-font-family:  Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">所以選項</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;mso-themecolor:accent2">2</span><span style="font-family:&quot;新細明體&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:  minor-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:新細明體;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast;  mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin;color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">一開始就註定輸給選項</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#C0504D;  mso-themecolor:accent2">1.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p ="Ms&#111;normal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2619" rel="nofollow">高清海</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-08 at 4:30am<br /><br />我選4，馬拉松跑多了號碼布.紙證書對我而言，都是ㄧ種用完就丟製造出來廢棄物，當然衣服也是，不過還可以轉送需要之人，今年雙溪馬拉松送了快20件衣服和浴巾跟毛巾。]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3875" rel="nofollow">滿天星</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-07 at 9:34pm<br /><br />我中間票<br />直接列印<br />優點：是可以馬上知道成績與當下完成的成就感覺<br />缺點：就是近年來許多代跑.轉讓問題不小心讓主辦單位誤頒獎項，讓主辦無法及時追回造成損失與排名錯亂，一但錯亂中後段成績又不能即時更新列印並且會造成多印紙張需損失成本轉給回收，下雨也會淋濕<br />電子檔：<br />優點：1.下雨不用擔心淋濕<br />2.不用讓轉讓.冒名代跑者有貪瀆念頭機會<br />3.能讓主辦多些時間抓出這些不遵守規定之跑友<br />4.中後段班也能有正確排名<br />缺點：<br />就是要自己印咖麻煩些，而且還要掏腰包列印<br />本人結論：<br />1.如果電子檔能存放一至兩年讓跑者有緩衝期去查詢與列印絕大多數都能接受<br />2.雖然電子檔成績環保，但是就如跑完沒有浴巾披肩與領到完跑獎牌的感覺是一樣道理<br />終究於結論：<br />每個人所愛喜好有所不同，為了大會的統籌運作正常無賽後爭議與讓賽事中所有跑者能公平競爭考量之下，個人還是尊重各主辦單位取決與否，最後還是要說因為這是未來的趨勢所以大家就不用再爭吵了！！<br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />編輯者 滿天星 - 2015-02-07 at 9:36pm</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1444" rel="nofollow">許正輝x</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-07 at 8:42pm<br /><br />我支持 1]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8331" rel="nofollow">設備keep run</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-07 at 7:41pm<br /><br /><span style="font-size: small; line-height: 11.1999998092651px; : rgb248, 248, 252;">1、我贊成終點直接列印成績證明（優點是快速、方便）。</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2913" rel="nofollow">電光遠眺</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-06 at 9:45pm<br /><br />我支持 5&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3528" rel="nofollow">overbite</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-05 at 10:40pm<br /><br />3]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=199" rel="nofollow">王坤樹</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-05 at 10:03am<br /><br />是是是，諸位都是神。<br />小弟凡人，該說，不該說都說了，不再嘴砲。]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=7869" rel="nofollow">Bill Ku</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-05 at 9:08am<br /><br />其實現在很多主辦單位的簡章都寫的很清楚 , 身為跑者本來就應該在報名前詳閱內容<div>不認同可以不要參加<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">&nbsp;</span><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">, 而不是反過來要求主辦單位....</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px;">或是報了名才說沒注意看....</span></div><div>那都是本身有 某種程度上的 &nbsp;"閱讀障礙" .</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=792" rel="nofollow">TangST</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-05 at 7:47am<br /><br />現在的環境只容得下"標準答案"式的選項,選項以外就是錯.<div>大樹 你要承認你錯了.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1451" rel="nofollow">安樂使</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 10:27pm<br /><br />很好，那就別再來理我了。]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=199" rel="nofollow">王坤樹</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 10:01pm<br /><br />好笑到爆，可有人限制你發言？酸你兩局就抬出一言堂來戴人帽子。<br />其實跑廣根我一點關係也沒有，你要靠腰，就繼續靠腰吧，我沒太多閒功夫理你。]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2941" rel="nofollow">oldgod</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 7:23pm<br /><br /><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px; : rgb248, 248, 252;">我選4。</span><span style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 21px; : rgb248, 248, 252;">(最好可以當天就可以上網查詢成績。)</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5054" rel="nofollow">秦胖</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 6:55pm<br /><br />我選  1]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1451" rel="nofollow">安樂使</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 5:10pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>文章發表人 王坤樹</strong></em><br /><br />請問做這種民意調查意義何在？<br>難不成高民意下就得聽你的？<br>痴人夢話，又不是公家機構，誰會鳥你，阿Q的可以。</td></tr></table><br><br><font size="3">王兄火氣怎麼這麼大？<br><br>做這個民調的意義在第一篇文章就寫得很清楚了，難不成您有閱讀障礙嗎？如果還不清楚的話，我再重打一遍。<br><br>我只是想要知道跑者廣場的跑者們對於這個問題的想法而已，願意回應的跑者自然會回應，不想鳥我的自然不會鳥我，我有逼誰非得回答不可嗎？這個民調的結果當然也只是能<font color="#FF0000">給承辦比賽的單位做個參考</font>罷了，讓大家知道電子檔的成績證明是否為多數人所能接受的，是否在籌備比賽的時候多多考量多數人的想法，就這樣而已，我有要誰聽我的嗎？請別模糊焦點了，難不成這裡是一言堂，連了解跑者不同想法的空間都沒有，都得勞煩您出來打擊一番？</font><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=199" rel="nofollow">王坤樹</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 4:00pm<br /><br />請問做這種民意調查意義何在？<br />難不成高民意下就得聽你的？<br />痴人夢話，又不是公家機構，誰會鳥你，阿Q的可以。]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1677" rel="nofollow">新店阿祺</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 1:06pm<br /><br />我選4]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3409" rel="nofollow">蓮霧ㄟ</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 12:05pm<br /><br />我選1]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4548" rel="nofollow">永慢陳永星</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 11:26am<br /><br />我選4。<div><br><div>最好不要紀念衫，獎牌也可省下來，浴巾也免了，報名費少300元如何？不過對於一年跑一兩馬的跑友，紀念衫、獎牌、浴巾都是很珍貴的紀念品、戰利品。</div></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2237" rel="nofollow">土城烏龜阿財</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 10:24am<br /><br />我選4<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; top: -100000px; left: -100000px; : transparent;"></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 : 少了一個選項  5. 簡章怎麼說就怎麼做，紙本、電子皆可我會選5...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=6783" rel="nofollow">Goolsbee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 9:33am<br /><br />少了一個選項<div>5. 簡章怎麼說就怎麼做，紙本、電子皆可</div><div><br></div><div>我會選5</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 : 我選3各有優缺點，但只要有證明就好   </title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5258" rel="nofollow">ㄚ超</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 8:49am<br /><br />我選3<br>各有優缺點，但只要有證明就好<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 : 我選 1網站賽後也提供電子證書下載更好.像伊貝特網還可插入相片,...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2383" rel="nofollow">yswu</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 8:46am<br /><br /><font size="4">我選 1</font><div><span style="line-height: 25.2000007629395px; font-size: large;">網站賽後也提供電子證書下載更好.</span><div><font size="4"><span style="line-height: 25.2000007629395px;">像伊貝特網還可插入相片, 最好.</span></font></div></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>比賽成績證明形式之跑者民意調查 : 5、紙本或電子化成績證明皆可，接受大會比賽辦法的發放方式。（...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=248" rel="nofollow">郭居��</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17575<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2015-02-04 at 8:07am<br /><br />5、紙本或電子化成績證明皆可，接受大會比賽辦法的發放方式。<font color=red>（不認同原先的說明:個人是以尊重主辦單位的決定為出發點.）。</font><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />編輯者 郭居�� - 2015-02-06 at 8:24pm</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2015 08:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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