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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52" rel="nofollow">tgchen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4313<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2008-03-05 at 11:16am<br /><br />星爺抱歉！擔心您看不到，移版面的時候您正好殺進來了， <DIV>可能因而上文接不了下文，I am sorry !<BR>熱衷於討論超馬及馬拉松限時關門及完跑問題，<BR>因為年紀會一年比一年大，而關門時間勢必定一年比一年短，<BR>實在有點"時不我予！<BR>感嘆之餘很羨慕"獅頭"說："我報名從來都沒想過閞門時間的問題"<BR>雖然聽起來臭屁，事實上也有他真正的實力。</DIV><DIV>本以為"獅頭"擔心關門時間，就是我退休的日期，沒想到他又殺出人生300馬的雄心大志</DIV><DIV>當天，看到176終點完跑者大多坐"輪椅"，優勝者也不例外<BR>我才真正體會：完跑是一種意志力。<BR>衷心期待"獅頭”的時間膠囊，會有一大堆見証人跑步前往開啟<BR>那麼，還不到百馬的跑友(包括獅頭大人啦)<BR>應該適時保留實力(其實就是停下來啦)？還是每次都放手一搏，施展意志力？</DIV><DIV>這不但是176英豪面臨抉擇的問題，也是肖友一道難解的習題。</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />編輯者 tgchen - 2008-03-05 at 11:28am</span>]]>
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   <title>討論176k超馬完跑率?低及完跑抉擇問題 : 1.感謝老哥迅速詳細紀錄與分析。  2.大或若事先未備妥質...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=120" rel="nofollow">民間公證人陳永星</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4313<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2008-03-05 at 10:53am<br /><br /><FONT size=3>1.感謝老哥迅速詳細紀錄與分析。 </FONT><DIV><FONT size=3>2.大或若事先未備妥質佳量足的補給品，還要臨時去7-11進貨，更是跑者自己張羅，實在有負跑者之捧場。既然事先於簡章中已經載明，自應盡其責。至於林義傑在國外跑沙漠，事先已明示無補給站，跑者需要自行準備一切飲食者，跑者自然有計畫與應對之方。</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>3.168K放棄，外人或認為可惜，但只有當事人最明白，應該是明智而不得已的選擇，畢竟是身經近百戰的老馬。</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>4.130K被拱上車，似乎非完全出於自願，某些大會人員之心態似乎是：想早些下班。</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>5.星期一上午看中央氣象局網站的氣溫資料，誤以為均在25度以下，比起前三年涼快多多，據現場參與之人告知竟然高到36度，高溫對於跑者之影響至鉅。若天公作美，天上雲層夠厚如我們輕鬆跑金石，或有1.5倍之人完跑(就是增加六七位)。</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>6.敢報名均屬勇腳，若非限時30小時，我還不敢報名呢。還有勇者明知無法於時限內跑完，仍然毅然投入挑戰不可能任務，於未能完成後再發宏願：明年再戰，令人欽佩萬分。就算沒有完成，不管跑了130K或168K，都是超馬英雄。</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>7.若再辦，猜測明年日本國超馬選手會增加。</FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT size=3>8.可惜台灣的媒體似乎完全不報導(至少我完全沒看到)。較輕鬆的金石反而有相當多報導，尤其自由時報在星期一有一整個版面的圖文。如果我是報社總編，一定要給176兩個全版，包括第一版，不相信這個報導沒人要讀。</FONT></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>作者:</strong> <a href="http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=52" rel="nofollow">tgchen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4313<br /><strong>發表於：</strong> 2008-03-05 at 10:51am<br /><br /><FONT size=3><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><DIV>回應星爺的疑問，勉力核對完跑名單同時試行剖析如下，純屬個人淺見，留待跑友補充。<BR>一、比對照片及財哥補充，</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">176</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">超馬完跑眾英豪至少</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">12</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">位，包括關家良一、陳進財、吳勝銘、沖山裕子、邱淑容、陳志洋、陳雄海、林建發、劉家發、洪清學、林夢姬、陳正彥。另外，吳清章兄應該也完跑，可惜未入鏡尚無法証實。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">二、百信隊長陳文華已達</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">168k</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">，時間還剩一個半小時卻宣告放棄，相當可惜。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">50k</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">在</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">3</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">月</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">2</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">日上午</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">06:30</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">開跑前，我就看到他回轉了。另外，阿公店黃明全也在嬌妻愛心之下，將近</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">130k</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">被拱上車了。碰頭時還能下車、打開休閒車後車斗供應甘庶汁精神很好。我鼓勵他再跑，可能?於妻命難違而作罷。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></O:P></SPAN></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">三、分析完跑率較低可能原因如下：</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">1.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">誤判補給問題：</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">176</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">跑者都屬東吳</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">24</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">小時賽的老鳥，比賽前以同樣樂觀的補給心態報到，才曉得第一個星空的夜晚，兩位專用摩托車手祗準備一個空手提帶。一慌一亂，跑者臨時找</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">7-11</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">張羅夜點與補給。白天更慘：他們的補給與</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">50k/30K</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">沒兩樣。??天氣從</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">09:00</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">開始天空無雲而炎陽高照。去年很多友社補給車，今年祗看到百信林森勝兄、黃明全嬌妻陳鳳英女士及羅董</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">邱淑容夫婿</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">等，跑者顯得孤單、無助。往年穿梭跑道的肖友及親友都不見了，據說在金石！</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">2.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">夜間配速誤差：</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">3</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">月</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">1</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">日下午延蕩卅多分鐘，至</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">8</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">點半以後才起跑。第二天凌晨五點不到，先頭部隊就抵達</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">88</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">折返點。邱淑容大約五點廿到，也太早了一些。她說：夜黑風高又怕狗來咬，與洪清學、陳順達、吳勝銘等併肩而跑既順暢又安全，服務志工結隊趕狗照明相當有趣，不知不覺加快腳步，也看不清楚里程數。直到</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">120K</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">之後，?熱加上補給線不足等問題，飽嚐苦果一度還想放棄。最後能完成，也是靠意志力及夫婿的鼓勵。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">3.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">保留實力：配合</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">15</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">位報名七天七夜遠征的勇腳，行前郭老師特別鼓勵及打氣：一切以國外比賽為重切勿逞強，不要因為硬拼而受到運動傷害。即將於三月啟程，我感受到眾英豪有一種保留實力的心態，其實也是一種正面的看法。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">4.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">其他：跑者現身說法應該最值得參考，我也進一步鼓勵邱小姐提筆撰述。她在跑步過程中，心情蠻冷靜的，見解也會更客觀吧！</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">總之，在現場感受到花蓮教育大學的學生付出同樣的心力，他</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">她</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">們兩人一組跨夜提供服務，在第二天下午，很多跑友退賽了，這些志工一票人平躺在終點站玉里</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">7-11</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">走廊上，真的是噓累累，但是還必須打起精神騎回花蓮，真令人不忍；對</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">176</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">跑者的感動呢？那更不用說了。</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" ="Ms&#111;normal"><FONT size=3><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">沖山裕子接受訪問提了兩點，她說：跑</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><FONT face="Times New Roman">176k</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: maro&#111;n; FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'">雖然身心疲憊不堪，但是花蓮縱谷沿途的美景令她難忘，有生之年還要再來。其次，對花蓮教育大學志工服務相當滿意，事實上她是手拉手與兩位志工一起衝線抵達終點的，我知道，她說的一定是真心話！</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0" ="Ms&#111;normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: maro&#111;n"><a href="http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/y051086/photo?pid=3237&amp;prev=3236&amp;next=3238" target="_blank"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 新細明體; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><U><FONT color=#800080 size=3>服務志工噓累累</FONT></U></SPAN></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />編輯者 tgchen - 2008-03-05 at 11:29am</span>]]>
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