白線上的跑者
列印論壇: 跑者廣場
分類: 長跑相關討論與資訊
討論區名稱: 比賽感想
討論區簡介: 抒發與交流比賽的感想與心情
URL: http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=157
列印日期: 2025-06-28 at 12:45pm
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主題: 白線上的跑者
發表人: 阿田
文章主題: 白線上的跑者
發表日期: 2002-08-23 at 11:35pm
瀏覽中山高速公路馬拉松照片 兩位越南選手赤腳在高溫柏油路上為了保護腳，跑在白線上，心中有點不忍，他們為生活而賽跑令人欽佩，同樣我們的吳有家也是為了生活而跑，國內企業體育界並不重視長跑，靠比賽很難維持家計，職籃職棒或許比較好，但台灣的體育真的需要大企業來支持。
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-08-28 at 2:29pm
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Only few runners can make a living by running for a prize.
Here we have a race called - JP Morgan Corporate Challenge (Please check http://www.chasecc.com/). It is held several places in USA. Companies sponsor the race and encourage their employees to run it. The distance is only 3.5 miles, i.e. 5.6 K. But as we all know, it's not necessarily easy at such a short distance, compared to the marathon 42K. This is because we all try our best and will run at very fast pace for shorter distance. In each local race, top five company teams are awarded for male (5 men), female (5 women), and co-ed (mixed 2 men and 2 women). My company is used to be top three. I am in male team, who won the third place this year. The top one teams in each local race are sponsor by their companies to go to New York for the final in October. This series of the races may not promote every Olympic runners, but it encourages more runners and more employees who work hard to get out of their office and run. Most importantly, it gets more companies to be involved in this activity and recognize it. Any similar events in Taiwan? ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-08-28 at 2:47pm
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How about "Taiwan Corporate Challenge"? Have a race in each county or metro city for local companies to sponsor it (registration fee, T-shirts, etc) for competition. Then have a final for all top company teams.
I think this will increase recognition of running in our civilian, society, and coporate culture, needless to say the health of our people, which is the indication of strength of a country/nation. ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-08-28 at 11:20pm
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Hi RunningYam Thank for your attention about running in Taiwan. I think the problem is that elite runners get little respect in our country. Although the government had set up the criteria for prize ( may be a lot of money ) , it is not a guarantee for the future of the elite athlete. Taiwan Corporate Challenge may be organized in the furture but now there are not any races hold between company teams. Generally speaking ,companies seldom encourage employee to run for health except some show time broadcast on TV . My point is about the Vietnan runner who won the marathon held on free way with bare foot under high tempeture in Taiwan... I don't think he like to run without shoes under such a condition.They can not afford a pair of Nike or Adidas running shoes cost 80-100 US dollars. Race doesn't have place to show and no one buy ticket to watch a road race. I worry about the future of our young elite runner. They must realize that they should have another plan for the future. In my memory the marathon and 10000 meters record holder 許績勝 of our country had been sponsored by Japanese enterprise and set the records in Japan. This is the reason for the Japan and Korea can get the gold medal in olympic. Anyway the government and enterprise should do something for promotion of distance running in our country. ------------- |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-08-28 at 11:21pm
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Hi RunningYam Thank for your attention about running in Taiwan. I think the problem is that elite runners get little respect in our country. Although the government had set up the criteria for prize ( may be a lot of money ) , it is not a guarantee for the future of the elite athlete. Taiwan Corporate Challenge may be organized in the furture but now there are not any races hold between company teams. Generally speaking ,companies seldom encourage employee to run for health except some show time broadcast on TV . My point is about the Vietnan runner who won the marathon held on free way with bare foot under high tempeture in Taiwan... I don't think he like to run without shoes under such a condition.They can not afford a pair of Nike or Adidas running shoes cost 80-100 US dollars. Race doesn't have place to show and no one buy ticket to watch a road race. I worry about the future of our young elite runner. They must realize that they should have another plan for the future. In my memory the marathon and 10000 meters record holder 許績勝 of our country had been sponsored by Japanese enterprise and set the records in Japan. This is the reason for the Japan and Korea can get the gold medal in olympic. Anyway the government and enterprise should do something for promotion of distance running in our country. ------------- |
發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-08-29 at 8:14am
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I understand this, but it is still sad to hear about it again. Our country (Taiwan) simply can not help our best people succeed in sports, academic, etc. Athelets like 許績勝 have to go to other countries like USA, Japan to continue their career and become more successful. Many kids have to leave their hometown and develop their future in USA.
Running is an individual business, but what can we runners do about this situation? The problem may not be resolved right away. But just like we run marathon, we have persistence, consistency, strong belief/will, etc. Those mental strength make us differ from others. With theses advantages, there should be something we can do even little. A marathon is nothing but tens of thousands of little and strong footsteps! Shall we better open a new thread to discuss this if there are some interests aroused? ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: 陳英謙
發表日期: 2002-09-01 at 1:15pm
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記得多年前牛頭鞋曾經支助一隊長跑隊, 在重要路跑比賽替隊員報名, 路程遠的比賽安排食宿, 比賽完依成績頒發獎金, 默默支持此隊伍十餘年, 現在仍在路跑界或較淡出的高手, 像郭宗智 吳有家 張寶財 張金全 王千銓 許義忠 周顯光等前輩, 都是此長跑隊佼佼者, 那時路跑賽只要看穿有紅色牛頭鞋背心的選手, 莫不畏懼三分, 很可惜的是, 此隊伍現已解散
如果有多個公司企業肯像當年牛頭鞋一樣的話, 也許可減少優秀選手部份生活負擔, 而路跑比賽將會更有看頭, 今年太魯閣馬拉松有多個俱樂部的對決, 期待哪年是某某公司 XX長跑隊 OO企業的車拼 ------------- |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-01 at 10:24pm
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runningYam 說得有點道理 跑步是個人事業 不論是為健康 生活 或是其他目的 喜歡跑步的人都有些執著 我因為民生報報導吳有家失業 又看到越南人打赤腳 心中有感而發 或許這些冠軍在於物質生活上較為貧乏，但內心應該很充實，而他們可能永遠不知道他們曾被我們討論過，祝福他們，我們能為他們做什麼嗎？ ------------- |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-04 at 9:31am
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以永和慢跑的名義資助跑鞋衣褲如何 ------------- |
發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-04 at 9:37am
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Great. Most of races in US have a portion of registration fee go to charities. But make sure you have planned part of the fee for this purpose and mention it in the race details so that runners gladly and proudly know where their money goes to. ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-04 at 11:35am
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Hi RunningYam:很高信有您善意的附議 我想您的想法可以給我們方向 跑步者可以做公益也是很有意義 通常跑者在我的印象大多很友善 集合大家的力量應該可以做很多事不是嗎 ------------- |
發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-04 at 2:10pm
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Yes. Runners have strong belief in themselves. This mental strength is our advantage to help others.
Three years ago, Taiwan suffered the 921 earthquake. I, as a runner, had the same belief. I organized a running team in my company, collected relief fund from my co-workers, donated it to Tzi-Chi in US. Few days later, I ran a race with my friends, wearing a sign notifying other runners how Taiwan people needed help from all of us. These were not worthy of being mentioned here, but I'd like to say they were simply from my belief as a runner. I think all of you will do the same. Still there are lots of things we can do even little as long as we have it in mind. ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-04 at 2:44pm
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Hi RunningYam You are a great guy. 921 我只有捐錢但沒有發起其他的活動 能主動作一些事真的很好 在台灣真的須要多一點像 RunningYam 的人
我很好奇您的名字 Yam只是代表圖案像芋頭 還是有其他涵義 ------------- |
發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-05 at 12:44am
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"芋頭" is taro. Yam is "蕃薯". Perhaps I mean I'm a "son of Taiwan". Did President Chen say that? ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-05 at 4:29pm
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原來如此阿 RunningYam 名字取的很特別 而且涵義深遠 好名字 ------------- |
發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-06 at 6:15am
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I saw those victims as my families. Then I simply did what anyone would do for them if his/her families came across such a disaster. ------------- 我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸 -約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年） 只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。 |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-06 at 12:25pm
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記得921當時因為住家在21樓我和太太以為我們將要掛了 所幸只有手肘被割破縫了3 針 (因為玻璃書櫃要倒塌竟然想要去救如今想起自己實在愚蠢極了) 疤痕不長但是經驗難忘 記得去醫院實習餐廳牆壁貼著 (視病猶親) 4個字 其實不只對病人 相對弱勢的人我們都應該用同理心相待 ------------- |
發表人: Dale Huang
發表日期: 2002-09-23 at 10:39pm
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在"921大地震"之後, 我當時是某長跑俱樂部的會長. 曾經於當年十月上旬,主辦"921救災募款慈善馬拉松賽". 將所有的報名費和樂捐所得共計 $87,000 捐出去.比賽的經費則另外張羅. 該賽會因十月份天氣炎熱, 完走者雖只有七,八位而已, 但是, 所有的參與者, 都感覺到"助人"的興奮與幸福. 雖然已經事過多年. 但是, 大夥兒相聚在一起時, 一談起當年往事, 仍是記憶猶新. 關懷災民之情, 溢於言表, 不勝唏噓!
以"運動"結合"行善", 正是運動家的本質. 因為運動之後, 帶來身體健康和體力. 就如"大事業家"擁有"財富"一樣. 在幫助他人之時, 前者出力, 後者出錢. 若無健康身體就無充沛體力. 何來之力去幫助他人呢? SO,運動強身即是累積"助人之力". Run smart and run happy. ------------- Dale Huang |
發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-24 at 11:30pm
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黃會長的話很有道理 自己要夠強才能幫助弱勢 所以我們自己要求自己要高一點 說到這裡自覺纏愧 因為在跑步方面雖燃斷斷續續跑了一段時期 總是沒有像其他會員一般投入 自從7月認識其他會員才發現有如此多的瘋狂跑者 有意思 921 捐款不少 可是不知有沒有到災民手中 這有點 噯不說也罷 ------------- |