空軍一號上的跑步機
列印論壇: 跑者廣場
分類: 長跑相關討論與資訊
討論區名稱: 慢跑資訊
討論區簡介: 張貼關於所有俱樂部慢跑活動訊息
URL: http://www.taipeimarathon.org.tw/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=163
列印日期: 2025-09-06 at 4:06pm
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主題: 空軍一號上的跑步機
發表人: 阿田
文章主題: 空軍一號上的跑步機
發表日期: 2002-09-06 at 9:04pm
Runner's world十月份介紹布希總統 內容相當不錯 內有專訪布希 對跑步的一些意見 布希認為跑步可以使人有紀律 這點個人覺得非常有意思 布希和大多的主管一樣要求員工準時和工作犀利 (punctuality and sharp) 跑步者通常覺睡的香 7點開會不成問題 而且喜歡接受他人不願意做的工作 這兩點特質可以使你在工作崗位上立於不敗 你一定想不到空軍一號上有跑步機 布希常在飛行中跑步呢 很酷吧 在美國5任種總統有四位喜歡跑步 台灣還沒有出縣喜歡跑步的總統 好像只有馬英九喜歡 不談政治
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 12:55am
I think President Bush is about 60 years old. Most of you may saw him on TV and knew how he looked like - not atheletic. But you may not believe that he once ran 3 mile (= 4.8K) at about 20 min in a race months ago.
To promote Be Healthier U.S., he hosted the inaugural President's Challenge race (3 mile run and a 1.5 mile fitness walk) for his Cabinet and White House staff. Not only that, he even ran the 3 mile race aggressively. His first and second mile times are 6:30, 6:47, and he finished at his 3 mile PR 20:28.
1 mile = 1.6 K
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 1:29am
"跑步者通常覺睡的香" - This is why my wife is jealous of me. She said I would not be awakened even if our house were on fire.
"喜歡接受他人不願意做的工作" - Agree. Most people don't like running and think it boring, while we embrace this torture for fun.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 1:37am
I think running is one of the factors reflecting the strength of a nation.
I once read a Japanese magazine (called Runners). I found there were so many running race every weekend. My Japanese friend, who is also a runner, told me that Japan, which is much smaller in size, has more running races than US. he said there was a Japanese runner who once run 100 marathons in one year. This is pretty amazing and unbelievale - twice every week, one on Saturday and the other on the next day. On the same magazine, I also read that there was a Japanese runner who completed over 4800km running across America. No wonder why the Japan female runner won the 2000 Olympic marathon.
I think this is the same in Korean, though I don't have much information about it. This gave me some ideas why the Korean runner won the 2001 Boston marathon by beating all other Kenyan and Ethopian runners, eliminating their many year winnning streak.
So in many international races held in US, we can easily find out Japanese and Korean names in the top places.
I am happy to know that there are more endurance races in Taiwan and many are (ultra-)marathons and triathlons. This is what I never heard about 10 years ago. This shows our awareness of working hard to become healthier.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: Dale Huang
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 2:25am
I totally agree with your view points and admire the detailed analysis and explanation. Indeed,I have the same feeling and experience as well,and I've changed a lot in my life since I started running 20 years ago. Yes, running is one of the factors reflecting the strength of a country. We do see it clearly, but not the politicians of great influence in Taiwan......
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Dale Huang
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 3:01am
Some of you may be interested in finding that the former Vice President Al Gore once completed a full marathon (Marine Corp Marathon) in 1997. If I remember it correctly, his time is a little faster than 3:40. This is not easy, considering he is 183cm and 89kg. He used to do 150 push-ups, 100 sit-ups everyday, weightlifting every other day, and run 5 or 6 days a week.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 7:55am
布希56歲 但精力旺盛 每週跑六天 速度也很驚人3哩跑20分多 其實國家強盛否 看人民運動的多寡大概可知一二 而元首具有指標意義 Runner's world建議布希跑華盛頓DC Marine Corps Marathon 而他們認為只要布希和他們合作 3:30 不是問題 What a great president !
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 8:37am
Compared with people in US, Japan, etc, my feeling is that most Taiwanese do not have much interest in endurance activities or those requiring physical strength. Perhaps the continuing torrents in political environment and social changes keep people away from being relaxed and seeking personal challenges. I fully understand this. However, looking around my friends here from Taiwan, I don't see they have any interest in those physical activities. I don't know why because they, staying in the very stable environment in US with a pleasant living, should not have any concerns.
Actually, not only Taiwanese, most Asians (people from China, India, etc.) I know about or working in my company are similar in this case.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-07 at 10:14am
確實如此 我個人覺得這和小時的生活環境及教育有很大關係 台灣長大的人通常不會忘記大學以前的日子是怎過 教育不重體育 學生體力大多耗費在考試 而大部分家長不會期望以運動來改善健康 ㄘ補比較普遍 我個人上大學因為身體常常感冒.和鼻炎才開始接觸跑步 如果可以從小開始培養運動的觀念 我們的兒童應該會趕得上其他已開發國家 RunnungYam您童年有否在臺灣生活過 若有應該有印象 台灣的小孩補習時間都不夠那裡會想到運動 美國的教育和生活環境太好 人民自然會健身 記得有次在舊金山中午休息 看到街道有不少人跑步 這情況台北或許將來會有 但是不會常見 去年二月去日本北海道 氣溫零下10幾度街頭下著大雪 玻璃窗內健身房擠滿人 跑步機可搶手 個個揮汗如雨 覺得日本生命力旺盛很驚人 沒有關係我們雖然起步慢 但腳步沒有停 看跑步的人口一直增加 健身房越來越多 相信臺灣會越來越好
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-08 at 2:22pm
阿田, I have the same background. The difference is I continue my career in US. So I completely understand what you described above.
旺盛生命力 is a characteristic in Taiwan society and I truly believe this.
"我們雖然起步慢 但腳步沒有停", "相信臺灣會越來越好" There are more and more races and runners than before. So I'm very excited to wait for my first marathon in Taiwan (Taroko Marathon).
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: 阿田
發表日期: 2002-09-09 at 4:33pm
Hi RunningYam 昨晚永和會員聚餐慶生 很高興看到很多同好 蕭會長和其他常常來網站的跑友 都提到您 大家都期待在太魯閣見到您 尤其是您的意見和知識 會員們都如獲至寶 回國一定要通知大家 You were supposed to be with us last night! See you at Toroko! 對了 如果您不介意可不可以談談您在臺灣跑步的起因和感覺呢?
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發表人: 陳英謙
發表日期: 2002-09-09 at 8:31pm
是啊, 我們這像不像一群筆友約在太魯閣見面一樣?
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-10 at 1:33am
I did not do running in before I came to US. Like most students in Taiwan, I was more concentrating on my course work. The "greatest" run I can remember is 30 laps on 400m track in NTU, which took me almost an hour. Then I could not walk a bit when I hiked w ith my friend in YangMin San next day. Other than that, I don't think I actually did any running except a few forced 3000m runs in military service.
After I came to US for graduate study, I started to run a little, maybe 4K once a week. Fresh air, more runners, lots of trails, I think all of these allured me to go out for a run.
When I started to work here, I began to run seriously. This is probably due to lots of pressure from my work. I also felt that I was not as fit or strong as before. Since my company had a very good gym, so I explored the trails around my company by running. Day by day, I ran longer, felt better and stronger, and met many runners. I started with the capability to run only 15 min. I went for my first 1/2 marathon after a year and first marathon after 3 years. I have witness the improvement on myself from running. I believe these accomplishments have happened to you all.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-10 at 2:05am
I used to come back Taiwan for vacation every one or two years. While in Taiwan, I used to run laps of DaAn forest park, or run from the botton of YanMin San to the bufferfly road (BaLaKa Rd.), beginning with running to Taipei train station and taking 260 to the bus stop SanTzIan. The former is really boring, but easily accessible to me. I like the latter because it's uphill all the way, a challeneg to my mind and physical. It has better view, but sometimes dangerous because the road was not wide enough and lots of bus passed by without any respect..
On weekends, I used to explore some area by running, (trying to reduce the air polution I might introduce), such as Taipei City Zoo to SFanLiao run, which I posted before.
In each vacation, I would plan some runs outside Taipei area when my family went to visit other counties.
It's great to knowing all you runners because we can share our experience and enthusiasm. And I can try more courses and expand my footsteps. I have a few running challenges to run when I came back this year. Maybe some of you can join me and that'll be fun.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-10 at 2:07am
Yeah! I never had such experience in my generation - meeting with penpals.
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: RunningYam
發表日期: 2002-09-10 at 3:09am
"舊金山". Yes, there are lots of runners in San Francisco. No wonder it is listed as top three US cities with most fitted people. If I am correct, I think the other two are San Diego in California, and one outside California.
Singing a nice song,
<quote>
If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you’re going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people there
For those who come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there
In the streets of San Francisco
Gentle people with flowers in their hair
All across the nation,
Such a strange vibration
People in motion
There's a whole generation,
With a new explanation
People in motion, people in motion
For those who come to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there
If you come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there
</quote>
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我只是出去散步，最後得出結論，以避開到日落，為走出去，我發現，是怎麼回事英寸
-約翰繆爾（1838年至1914年）
只是出去走走，結果待到天黑，我發現，出走竟真是返我。
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發表人: 陳英謙
發表日期: 2002-09-10 at 11:17am
RunningYam 在此分享了他開始跑步到跑出趣味的過程, 上星期六永和慢跑餐會很多人就對他感到好奇, 因此我嘗試將上幾篇文章翻譯成中文, 讓更多人比較容易讀, 若有譯錯, 還請指正
RunningYam 在台灣讀大學時也跟絕大多數大學生一樣很少出去運動, 印象中跑得最多的一次就是在台大的400公尺操場跑了30圈, 花了將近一小時, 害得他隔天和同學去陽明山玩的時候幾乎走不動, 除此之外就是當兵時的3000公尺跑步了
當完兵後去美國讀研究所, 就開始跑步, 大概是一星期一次, 約4公里左右, 新鮮的空氣, 很多跑步同好與許多跑步小徑都是吸引他跑步的動力
畢業後出去工作才開始認真跑步, 可能是工作壓力太大, 也可能是覺得體力不如從前, 於是在公司附近找了幾條適合慢跑的小徑跑步, 跑著跑著體力越來越好, 距離越跑越長, 也結交許多跑步的朋友, 剛開始跑步時跑15分鐘就跑不動了, 但一年以後參加半程馬拉松, 三年後完成初馬, 他看到了自己的進步, 他也相信大家也都有相同的經驗
RunningYam 每一兩年都會回台灣一次, 在台灣他常到大安森林公園跑步, 或者坐260公車到 SanTzIan (芝山岩? 山仔后?)下車, 從山腳下跑上陽明山, 經巴拉卡公路, 二子坪賞蝶步道等, 在大安公園跑步比較無聊, 但離家近較方便, 他比較喜歡去陽明山跑步, 因為這裡有上下坡, 對自己體力與毅力都是很大的考驗, 也有比較好的風景, 只可惜有些路窄又有車子有些危險
在星期假日, 他常會出去郊外跑步尋找新路線, 例如上次提過從動物園跑到平溪十分寮, 若遇長假家人出國旅遊, 他也會到台灣其他各地去跑步旅行 (哈! 真是有趣的一家, 每個人都喜歡旅行)
今年年底 RunningYam 要回台灣, 他同樣會到各處跑步旅行, 若有機會大家可跟他一起去
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