有關日本超馬一二事 - 從斯巴達松談起
列印論壇: 跑者廣場
分類: 長跑相關討論與資訊
討論區名稱: 超級馬拉松
討論區簡介: 關於超過42.195公里的比賽喔
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主題: 有關日本超馬一二事 - 從斯巴達松談起
發表人: ultrailrunner
文章主題: 有關日本超馬一二事 - 從斯巴達松談起
發表日期: 2009-10-06 at 3:27pm
小弟近日在美國超馬論壇發表馬路與步道超馬, 之後獲得日本超馬朋友 Aki Inoue 迴響, 並發表一段鄰近跑步強國日本超馬現況, 十分精采, 也許有朋友可以翻譯一下
Aki Inoue
Executive director, Japan Ultrarunners Association Manager, Japanese 100K/24H/48H national teams RD, Jingu Gaien 24H Challenge Run (Tokyo, Japan) Overseas invitation director, Soochow International Ultramaratahon (Taiwan)
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發表人: ultrailrunner
發表日期: 2009-10-06 at 3:28pm
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Subject: Re: UR - Road or Trail (was Re: Spartathlon) Japanese UR scene-Part 1 From: Aki Inoue <inoue.cbio@TMD.AC.JP> Reply-To: Aki Inoue <inoue.cbio@TMD.AC.JP> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 10:21:30 +0900 Content-Type: text/plain
At 06:04 09/09/30, Chihping Fu wrote: >This really depends on the countries or areas. > >My limited understanding (haven't been to many places) is that USA has the >best trail running environment in the world with its so many runnable >trails. In some other countries such as Taiwan where I'm from, there are way >too many trails and they are really wonderful, but few of them are runnable. >Most of the trails there are extremely technical based on the USA >trailrunning standard. Rope rappelling, steep/rooted sections, rock >rambling, creek crossing, ladders, crawling at all fours are usually seen at >a typical trail adventure - yet another flavor of trail experience! Can >check my video clip - http://www.facebook.com/v/1214529443772 - http://www.facebook.com/v/1214529443772 in which I >fast hiked (because it's not runnable) with friends on a popular trail in >Taiwan this summer. I believe this is similar in Japan. In such cases, road >running becomes much more popular in terms of ultrarunning.
In Japan, trail running has been getting really popular in recent years, and also together, road running/jogging is getting much more popular, too, because of the launching of Tokyo Marathon a few years ago (this year, over 310 thousands people applied for the lottery in which 35,000 runners will be picked (including 5,000 for 10K).
Recently, many of ordinary Japanese people start running on roads casually, and relatively easily step into trails, and as a result, limited trail running races in Japan becomes tough to be on their entry lists. For example, the premier Hasegawa Tsuneo Cup called "Hasetsune"
--- http://www.hasetsune.com/ - http://www.hasetsune.com/ October 11-12=this weekend, substantially a Japanese trail national championship, 44 miles, well mixed with runnable and technical trails at lower altitude , Scott Jurek was invited in 2003, course record was set last year with just under 8 hours, Tsuyoshi Kaburagi=2nd at 2009 WS100= was the second behind the winner/CR holder last year. ---
The race has 1.7 thousands participants this year, but the entry was shut out within less than one hour at the Internet application system. Similar thing happened for the entry of 2010 Umstead as I heard, which is unimaginable to me who only took part in Umstead in 1999 (I might have entered a few weeks before the race without any problems). A huge typhoon is closing to Japan Islands incuding Tokyo this week,and it may hit the Hasetsune race site on Thursday. I hope that the course is not damaged much by the typhoon. We have to accept muddy trails anyway.
When I was racing in the US trail ultra races in 1990s, the term "trail running" was not yet even recognized, and I chose to improve road ultras in Japan at first when I came back (1999-), but after Hiroki Ishikawa came to the US for racing at elite levels (2001/2002-), and brought knowledges/system back to Japan, the circumstances had become more favorable to trail running, in fact, Hiroki has produced some nice trail races here. In September 21-22, there was the inaugural Shinetsu Five Mountains Trail 100km ( http://www.sfmt100.com/%29 - http://www.sfmt100.com/) of which course is designed by Hiroki. I did not run the race by myself, but according to comments from the participants on the Internet, it was quite well organized, and has a beautiful course. The initial course record was set with about 9.5 hours which tells that the course is well runnable, I think. One epoch-making thing was that the race officially allowed pacers for the first time in Japan's trail races. Since a lot of people cannot be official entrants due to limitation of the field, I believe that participation as pacers has possibility to be becoming popular even here in Japan. Let's see.
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發表人: ultrailrunner
發表日期: 2009-10-06 at 3:30pm
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At 06:04 09/09/30, Chihping Fu wrote: >See how strong >Japan team was in Spartathlon and other world cup road races.
Ryoichi Sekiya was third in 2001 Spartathlon, and won in 2002. His winning this year was the first time in 7 years. In those 7 years, Ryoichi won IAU 24h WC four times (2004, 2006-2008), but he was behind Scott Jurek in 2006 Spartathlon, and we all Japanese ultra runners respect Scott. His time of 2008 is truly amazing.
I., by myself, organized the fourth annual Jingu Gaien 24H (IAU Bronze Label) several weeks ago (September 12-13, and we had good performances there.
http://sports.geocities.jp/jpn24rt/09jingugaien24h_results.htm - http://sports.geocities.jp/jpn24rt/09jingugaien24h_results.htm
Men 1. Shingo Inoue 160.8 miles 2. Kazuhiko Ozawa 151.2 miles *3. Jun Onoki 146.2 miles 4. Ryo Abiko 143.7 miles *5. Yasuhiro Hiura 142.0 miles 6. Tomohiko Yukawa 141.2 miles
Women 1. Kiyoko Shirakawa 139.5 miles 2. Takako Furuyama 129,6 miles 3. Yoshiko Matsuda 126.5 miles 4. Yoko Nagase 126,1 miles
(50 entrants/49 starters, all categories) * non-JAAF-registered runners (not eligible to qualify for the national team)
I was reading the discussions on the list about Jamie Donaldson's 200km record on a track with some interest because of three reasons.
First, I have actually worked as a volunteer for 1998 and 1999 SCMT Ottawa 24H races which was probably held in a different track from the one for this year. Second, I watched Jamie D. running "on-site" at the latest two IAU 24h WCs in 2008 (Seoul, South Korea) and 2009 (Belgamo, Italy), and really admired her VERY consistent racing strategy in each one. (5th in 2008, and 4th in 2009, both were done in coming-from-behind fashion)
Finally, just about 200km records. During the Jingu Gaien 24H mentioned above, the leading lady, Kiyoko Shirakawa, passed the 200km mark at 20:40:55 (distance is accurately measured). The race is a road event (0.824 miles/lap). The current Asian 200, 000m record is 20;34:07 set by Sumie Inagaki, 2009 Spartathlon winner, in 2007 Soochow 24H (on a 400m track in Taipei). The current world record of 200,000m must be 18:31:43 by Edit Berces of Hungary in 2002 (Verona, Italy). The split time of 200km/200,000m should be automatically recorded during races on 400m tracks (just 500 laps), but since it is not a standard distance for keeping record times, and not marked on road courses. I hope that the distance is paid more attention even in road ultra races.
By the way, among the top-rankers in this year's Jingu Gaien 24H, there is only one who has been on the Japanese 24H delegation team before (Takako Furuyama, 2007 and 2008). All others have never raced in WCs, but some of them will be selected for next year.
Please note that the 2nd and 3rd female runners completed Spartathlon two weeks later (Takako Furuyama and Yoshiko Matsuda).
Yoshiko Matsuda came in the 2nd ahead of Lisa Bliss. Yoshiko did the 24h race as a "training" for Spartathlon?! Actually, some others did the similar thing. Takehiro Matsush*ta ran 71 miles (in 11 hours) in Jingu Gaien 24H, and quit to avoid having excessive fatigue, then eventually finished 4th in Spartathlon. It seems that 24H and 250km RR are linked, and populations are overlapped. Yuji Sakai, bronze medalist at 2009 IAU 24H WC in Italy, was 11th at this year's Spartathlon (not really good for him).
By the way, a guy who finished together with Lisa Bliss running together in the last 10 miles or so is Masayuki Otaki who won Spartathlon in 2000 for the first time as an Asian, and won Surgeres 48H (France) in 2007 with an Asian record of 264 miles. Masayuki also held former 24H Asian records of 168.4 miles set in 2004 Soochow 24H in Taipei.
The discussions regarding 50+ runners on the list, it reminds me of our 50+ runners in the Jingu Gaien 24H. Yoshiko Matsuda is 55 years old, and more amazingly, Takako Furuyama, 56, won Trans-Europe Foot-Race a few months ago (April-June). She is still running at world-class levels. Jun Onoki, 54, keeps his fitness as well (3rd overall at Jingu-Gaien), and I would like to mention that Jun finished Trans-America Foot-Race back in 1995 racing with David Horton et at. when he was 40. Of course, we all know that David is still quite active in challenging to make/renew FKTRs for longer trails. Transcontinental runners are really tough, mentally and physically.
It was quite exciting to follow the live update of North Coast 24H last weekend. Congratulations to all runners who survived through the 24hrs. I would be interested in which race Phil McCarthy and John Geesler choose to participate, IAU 24H WC or Surgeres 48H, both in France, only a week or so apart each other next May (you cannot do both due to the restrictions). In this year, Phil took 24H (Italy), and John took 48H (France). At any occasions, I will be glad to see them in France, particularly John who has been a very good friend of mine, since we competed in 1998 Nifty Fifty in RI (also in several ATYs).
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